Tuesday Night RSVP

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Many have inquired about the progress
of the Sunday morning meeting. So, we want to update you. I recently
sent this out to people. The letter is italicized. My comments are not.

<italic>Our thoughts are simple.

A weekend meeting that resembles our Tuesday night. Coffee before.
Worship. Prayer for one another. Lunch(If it is in the morning) Our
focus will be on building relationships in the church on Sundays,
believing for incredible worship and loving prayer for one another.

Teaching-an evening meeting devoted to teaching of the word. A place
for new believers and mature believers. (If we have guest speakers
from time to time this will be their place.)

A strong emphasis on reaching the lost. We (Tina and I) will have a
core of believers we work with, sharing our hearts and laying out a
"message" of the week. This weekly message can be taken by individuals
to share with their circle of disciples. That's it. Your Bible. A
couch. And food!

And before you go "NO WAY!" My "survey" of many of you has indicated
that Sunday morning messages are not necessarily "changing" your life.

This would be our precursor to our NEST training center. We hope it to
be a model for NEST plants as well.

We want to know your thoughts if you will. Please. I have listed them
by step. We do not go to step 2 until step 1 is resolved. We do not go
to step 3 until 2 is resolved. And so on. We can not go forward with
out these steps.

Administration:

We would need 3-4 couples and/or individuals who would plug in with
the day to day parts of ministry that I am not good at. At present
Tina does not have a lot of time, though if you are a woman and
thought she could help you in growing in your Christian walk, you
might ask her. We are not looking to be "pastors" as it is not our
gift. Tina is a gifted teacher and I just like to build things and let
them run. So, what does that mean, when I say "day to day?" I mean we
would need people who will counsel people in truth. We need people
with a willingness to disciple others. People who would occasionally
go to a hospital to visit someone or bring a meal. It would need
someone to help with paperwork and organizing a calendar. Helping
people know what meetings are going on.

</italic>We have had a number of people say "I want it to be local"
and I want to participate and help. Thank you!

<italic>

Children:

By having a Sunday morning service with no teaching children can join
in eating, worshipping and praying. If we do adult teaching in the
evening one night of the week, then we can figure out children's
studies.

</italic>I think we all see what needs to happen here. The children
certainly need to be taught. More mature believers can work with
parents to help with this.<italic>

Building:

Our house is already starting to max at 25 and there are many not
coming yet. We will need a building soon. This could be a school, a
Holiday Inn, or the Springfield S&L room. The latter 2 would require
moving our equipment each week. We might even be able to work out an
arrangement with another church for their afternoons on Sunday. We
would need someone to pursue this at the appropriate time. Part of our
offering will be set aside for this. We think the number we max at
here will be 40. When we hit 40 we need to move.

</italic>I had someone make inquiry into a building. This would be
free if it is available. I am contacting another church. It would not
be in the morning. And our former store building is an option if we
had $350 in cash each month.<italic>

Money:

A few weeks ago I was with Wayne Anderson. He told me to "talk" more
about the kingdom and money. We go by faith. Most of us understand
tithing and offering. But I am being real when I say that if we move
to the next level, then there is money to resolve. Whether it is a
rental space or feeding the poor, we need to agree that money will be
open and discussed. Tina and I have committed our tithe and offering
to this work.

</italic>I think we all agree with this.<italic>

Commitment:

This can not be done by commitment. Tina and I were hurt in a lot of
areas by well meaning people, but we realize we are not "done." If you
are one of the "administration" team we are going to ask you for a
commitment time frame. We feel that is reasonable.

</italic><bold>I need to make sure of this. Please contact me about
Sunday morning. A simple yes or no.</bold><italic>

Why would we consider a switch from "home?" Because so much of what we
see happening in the home church of New England is not that much
different than the methods we saw in a more traditional church. I
think what I am suggesting allows flexibility and freedom. Most of us
said we do not need more messages (Even great ones.) but relationship
and sorting out what we already know. Why do I say the lost. This week
I am meeting with a Buddhist who wants to talk about life and it's
meaning. He is one of many I will speak to this week. I want a safe
place for him. If he converts I will be devoted to his care. And we
have seen too many people sitting in homes alone. I do not believe
this is the Lord necessarily. I am concerned about discouragement and
disappointment setting in.

I will tell you. Last night I prayed from 2:30 til about 4:30. I told
God my plans. I felt like He said I was being too safe. It was one of
those "is this the devil speaking" moments. I am concerned. I value my
marriage and my family. I am not trying to kill myself. I am clear
when I say that I do not have the "gift" of pastor. Those who sit on
my couch may differ with that statement. But a week ago I was given
the word by a prophet to build warriors. So, the word says "believe
the prophets and you shall prosper." As I said in the beginning this
is a trial balloon. I shared the word about safe houses. I have been
given very strong words about the exodus to come. I do not want to
miss God.

</italic>

So there it is. Except music. I would like response about that as well.

Please if you have been attending, lend me your thoughts!

May God bless you!

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</color></fontfamily>Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Tuesday Night

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>I am quite aware that many of you have
"suffered" the last week or so. I am more convinced now than ever that
the spirit of witchcraft has made many attempts to break fellowship,
harm relationships and grind people down. Last night I was up til well
after 1 and awakened at 5:30 this morning, knowing it was time to
pray. As I prayed for each one of you I sensed for many that the
battle had raged fiercely. Simple things had become difficult.
Sickness had raised it's ugly head. Finances had once again come under
attack.</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>My response to it, more than anything
is that coming together is vital. I have gathered a few scriptures
below for you to visit. Where else can we find refreshing but through
repentance? Where else can we confess our sins and therefore be
healed? Where else can we esteem others higher than ourselves? Where
else can we see Him bless when His children are in unity?</fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>And with that in mind, let us come
together in fellowship and break bread together. I sense this would be
a good time to honor the body of Christ through communion. And I sense
as well offering up a prayer of unity and protection for this
community and come against this witchcraft that has tried to exalt
itself against the name of Jesus. Am I the only one who has
"forgotten" to war against some of these things?

 

Let us gather together on Tuesday with the thoughts of blessing God
and one another. Let each one of us prepare his or her heart and where
children are involved let us give them some simple instruction as
well. Let us help them to be all that God has planned for them as well.

 

Fellowship-John 13:34-45, Romans 12:9-10, 1 Thessalonians 4:9,1 John
3:18.

 

May God bless you!

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<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Lee</color></fontfamily>

Tuesday Night

Hi folks:

We had a really good night last night. The food just keeps getting
better and better. I see relationships building that are going
outside of the realm of Tuesday nights. And that is part of the goal.
When relationships build outside the group, others will notice and we
will see people's lives changed.

Worship was good last night. Last night I think we made some progress
with introducing children into the worship. One of the highlights was
Grace dancing like a ballerina during worship.

I want to share something. For months and years I have watched people
struggle(Including myself) with feelings of loneliness, hurt and pain.
If we the church, can not get it right, realistically no one can. My
own issues have cause pain to others. Perhaps yours have as well.
Anger, words, arguments, etc., just make already difficult situations
worse. Can I ask 2 things to contemplate. How are we doing with
repentance and encouragement? And how is our prayer life for others?
Until we heal the hurts, we do not go further. I am one of those.

Yesterday, I just wanted to give up. The last week had revealed some
difficult things to me. Inability to repair a car properly left me
reeling. A low score on a test(I passed-just not very well.). Not
being able to get a job to take some of the pressure off our family
while I am building a business. Feeling like I am 51 and no future. If
I was smart I would have counted my blessings. But I did not. And I
failed. And added "grease" to the already slippery slope. I did talk
to my friends. I did make sure the house was clean and ready for last
night. But my mind jumped the track and I was in trouble. And when the
furnace gave me a problem and smoke filled the basement, I thought
"the life insurance will help out here." Not very right thinking. Like
each person, I come in contact with, I do not always do right things.
"Taking captive every thought that exalts itself against the name of
Jesus." I did not. My failure to do that causes me problems just like
it causes you problems. And yesterday my wrongful thinking did just
that.

Th question I need to ask is "am I safe place for people to share what
is really going on?" Confess our sins one to another that we might be
healed. I need to know that. And so do each one of us. Personally, I
could use some prayer today. I am struggling. The last few days has
been pretty rough. And pray for Tina. Not only did we have some
difficulties, but she has some other things that could use prayer.

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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Remember you can always post at the website above. If you need prayers
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Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Tuesday Night

Hi folks:

Last week our Tuesday night meeting went well here. We had a lot of
children and I think people had weathered some storms and came through
the other side. I shared this in last week's letter. It was from Kim
Clement. I think we are starting to see it.
<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param>God
says,<color><param>0000,0000,807E</param> "If you are prepared for it,
you better start doing something unusual, so that I can do something
unusual. You better do something crazy, so that I can do something
crazy because you're going to command My blessing."</color></fontfamily>

For this week, I would like us to focus on praying about Tuesday. I
sense God is wanting to change us in some realm. And while we are at
it, could we pray for one another? Aaron G. and Mike have been
fighting physical sickness. Randy and Jannette have had great times
with some serious attacks. They have requested prayer this week while
Randy is in Carolina. They miss Tuesday nights he said to say. Many
are contending in the financial realm. The Lord has been showing me
some things to release for breakthrough in these areas. One of these
is "what's your focus?" I have felt the Lord saying over and over
again to us, "seek ye first the kingdom of God." Many have called us
this week asking for prayers of direction. I know that 3-4 of you are
looking for work and breakthrough in the work area.

Practical-Anyone up to bringing some worship together Tuesday night?
Last week was wonderful. Aaron G. did a great job. He asked if someone
would take this week. Let me know.

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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prayed, just post there.

Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156</color>

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Tuesday Night

Hi folks:

Last week our Tuesday night meeting went well here. I thought I wrote
about it but one of those recent blank emails went out. I am so sorry.
It was a very intimate time with both the spirit of the Lord and one
another. Things are starting to get deeper relationally here. People
are starting to "dive" into one another's lives a little more.
Relationship is one of the building blocks of the Christian community.
It is what the world is looking for, as well. If you are looking for
some "deeper relationships" then perhaps this can be a place for you.

One of the things I am noticing is people being exposed to love is
bringing two sides out. One side is almost "will you love me when I am
not so lovable" and the other is "this what I have been waiting for."
What's weird is most of us do not know how to accept the one side or
the other very well. It has revealed a clear dichotomy in my thinking
over how did the church handle "bad behavior." I know what the
traditional side of things has looked like, but I wanted to examine it
afresh. One of the things I came to believe is that we the "church"
have to provide a safe place for everyone. So, if you really had a BAD
day and did a lot of not so wonderful things, you "force" us into a
position of love and how to approach you. One is we will never want to
be a place of embarrassment for you. So, I will believe the same
spirit that got you here to other believers can quicken you as to what
is wrong. We do not have to "expose" your sin. You on the other hand
have a biblical responsibility to confess your sin to another that you
might be healed. (Is that one of the reasons so many are sick? Oh
yeah-And repentance brings times of refreshing. Not feeling
refreshed...) We need to pray for you if it is not a sin unto death.
We need to approach you in meekness less we encounter the same sin.
You have a biblical response to make things right before your worship
before you bring your "gift" to the altar. I know about the 1-2-3-out
the door approach to confronting sin that the bible outlines. I am in
the middle of one with someone right now. I have approached them and
wait for their response. Have you ever looked at how that really
works? Interesting study. We as a body of believers have a
responsibility to love. So many are angry that I encounter every day.
Anger takes away our love, our energy, our health. What if we purpose
to be the ones that s-l-o-w down the pace? That love can prevail. Each
one who is fighting for finance, there is a lot being said about it.
(I am meditating on the word below.) Tina and I are moving to this
place. Just 5 minutes ago I received a call from a 90 year old prayer
warrior. He said "Lee-I am coming to visit you. I need to talk to you.
Are you OK? What is going on in Springfield. You have been on my heart
for 2 weeks.") In the past I have seen people quake at his prayer. I
have seen oil puddle up in his hands. But I have not seen him or
talked to him for over 3 years. He just disappeared. Now he wants to
come here to talk.

The last few weeks some awfully incredible things have happened here
in the community. Where can someone buy a 50,000 square foot building
for 18K? Just 2 weeks ago it happened. Some friends of mine bought
this large place and asked me to walk through it with them. Today I
have a meeting with a eastern unbeliever. He has written me to get
together. October this year can be the counter action to the years of
the devil and his halloween. This weekend we saw a witch "bound" tree
in a yard. Some of us believe that is prophetic here in Springfield.

Practical-Anyone up to bringing some worship together tomorrow night?
Last week was wonderful. Let me know.

<fontfamily><param>Verdana</param>God
says,<color><param>0000,0000,8080</param> "If you are prepared for it,
you better start doing something unusual, so that I can do something
unusual. You better do something crazy, so that I can do something
crazy because you're going to command My blessing."

</color></fontfamily>

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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prayed, just post there.

Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156</color>

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Tuesday Night

Hi folks:

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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Springfield, VT 05156</color>

Tuesday Night

Hi folks:

Tomorrow at 6, we will begin with a meal. Followed by worship around 7
and prayer for one another at 8 or so.

Anyone interested in playing for worship time, please let me know.

Looking forward to next week.

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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Springfield, VT 05156</color>

There seems to be a lot in the air about this, so let's look at it.

Hi folks:

I am floating a trial balloon of sorts. I want and need some feedback.

There seems to be a lot of conversation about a "church" that would
begin in Springfield . Many conversations and words about Springfield
have led us to this consideration place. So, let's review this. What
does it look like? I assure you what we think it looks like is like
nothing around here. Why? Because we believe that it represents a
return to the first years of the disciples. We do not see a lot of
what exists in church today, that most of us agree, is what it really
was. Without going too deep in this letter, we want to share our heart
with you. We have spoken to a group of people who believe in us,
Springfield and what God wants to do here. We have had many promises
for Springfield that have not been fulfilled. Tina and I are going
back to what we know best. If you would like to hear some of the
recent words we have received for Springfield please let us know. At
the same time this needs to be "on you," because much of our words
include taking people to the region, so we would not be available
every weekend. And we are not asking for "preachers," but people who
want to work at what their callings are.

Those that have seen our thoughts for NEST or the way Tuesday night
Deeper Relationships is unfolding know what we believe and where we
would like it to be.

Our thoughts are simple.

A weekend meeting that resembles our Tuesday night. Coffee before.
Worship. Prayer for one another. Lunch(If it is in the morning) Our
focus will be on building relationships in the church on Sundays,
believing for incredible worship and loving prayer for one another.

Teaching-an evening meeting devoted to teaching of the word. A place
for new believers and mature believers. (If we have guest speakers
from time to time this will be their place.)

A strong emphasis on reaching the lost. We (Tina and I) will have a
core of believers we work with, sharing our hearts and laying out a
"message" of the week. This weekly message can be taken by individuals
to share with their circle of disciples. That's it. Your Bible. A
couch. And food!

And before you go "NO WAY!" My "survey" of many of you has indicated
that Sunday morning messages are not necessarily "changing" your life.

This would be our precursor to our NEST training center. We hope it to
be a model for NEST plants as well.

We want to know your thoughts if you will. Please. I have listed them
by step. We do not go to step 2 until step 1 is resolved. We do not go
to step 3 until 2 is resolved. And so on. We can not go forward with
out these steps.

Administration:

We would need 3-4 couples and/or individuals who would plug in with
the day to day parts of ministry that I am not good at. At present
Tina does not have a lot of time, though if you are a woman and
thought she could help you in growing in your Christian walk, you
might ask her. We are not looking to be "pastors" as it is not our
gift. Tina is a gifted teacher and I just like to build things and let
them run. So, what does that mean, when I say "day to day?" I mean we
would need people who will counsel people in truth. We need people
with a willingness to disciple others. People who would occasionally
go to a hospital to visit someone or bring a meal. It would need
someone to help with paperwork and organizing a calendar. Helping
people know what meetings are going on.

Children:

By having a Sunday morning service with no teaching children can join
in eating, worshipping and praying. If we do adult teaching in the
evening one night of the week, then we can figure out children's
studies.

Building:

Our house is already starting to max at 25 and there are many not
coming yet. We will need a building soon. This could be a school, a
Holiday Inn, or the Springfield S&L room. The latter 2 would require
moving our equipment each week. We might even be able to work out an
arrangement with another church for their afternoons on Sunday. We
would need someone to pursue this at the appropriate time. Part of our
offering will be set aside for this. We think the number we max at
here will be 40. When we hit 40 we need to move.

Money:

A few weeks ago I was with Wayne Anderson. He told me to "talk" more
about the kingdom and money. We go by faith. Most of us understand
tithing and offering. But I am being real when I say that if we move
to the next level, then there is money to resolve. Whether it is a
rental space or feeding the poor, we need to agree that money will be
open and discussed. Tina and I have committed our tithe and offering
to this work.

Commitment:

This can not be done by commitment. Tina and I were hurt in a lot of
areas by well meaning people, but we realize we are not "done." If you
are one of the "administration" team we are going to ask you for a
commitment time frame. We feel that is reasonable.

Why would we consider a switch from "home?" Because so much of what we
see happening in the home church of New England is not that much
different than the methods we saw in a more traditional church. I
think what I am suggesting allows flexibility and freedom. Most of us
said we do not need more messages (Even great ones.) but relationship
and sorting out what we already know. Why do I say the lost. This week
I am meeting with a Buddhist who wants to talk about life and it's
meaning. He is one of many I will speak to this week. I want a safe
place for him. If he converts I will be devoted to his care. And we
have seen too many people sitting in homes alone. I do not believe
this is the Lord necessarily. I am concerned about discouragement and
disappointment setting in.

I will tell you. Last night I prayed from 2:30 til about 4:30. I told
God my plans. I felt like He said I was being too safe. It was one of
those "is this the devil speaking" moments. I am concerned. I value my
marriage and my family. I am not trying to kill myself. I am clear
when I say that I do not have the "gift" of pastor. Those who sit on
my couch may differ with that statement. But a week ago I was given
the word by a prophet to build warriors. So, the word says "believe
the prophets and you shall prosper." As I said in the beginning this
is a trial balloon. I shared the word about safe houses. I have been
given very strong words about the exodus to come. I do not want to
miss God.

Tina and I are in prayer about this. Please talk to us.

And see you Tuesday. BTW-it is our 14th anniversary and we want to
share the goodness of our marriage and our home with you.

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156</color>

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There seems to be a lot in the air about this, so let's look at it.

Hi folks:

I am floating a trial balloon of sorts. I want and need some feedback.

There seems to be a lot of conversation about a "church" that would
begin in Springfield . Many conversations and words about Springfield
have led us to this consideration place. So, let's review this. What
does it look like? I assure you what we think it looks like is like
nothing around here. Why? Because we believe that it represents a
return to the first years of the disciples. We do not see a lot of
what exists in church today, that most of us agree, is what it really
was. Without going too deep in this letter, we want to share our heart
with you. We have spoken to a group of people who believe in us,
Springfield and what God wants to do here. We have had many promises
for Springfield that have not been fulfilled. Tina and I are going
back to what we know best. If you would like to hear some of the
recent words we have received for Springfield please let us know. At
the same time this needs to be "on you," because much of our words
include taking people to the region, so we would not be available
every weekend. And we are not asking for "preachers," but people who
want to work at what their callings are.

Those that have seen our thoughts for NEST or the way Tuesday night
Deeper Relationships is unfolding know what we believe and where we
would like it to be.

Our thoughts are simple.

A weekend meeting that resembles our Tuesday night. Coffee before.
Worship. Prayer for one another. Lunch(If it is in the morning) Our
focus will be on building relationships in the church on Sundays,
believing for incredible worship and loving prayer for one another.

Teaching-an evening meeting devoted to teaching of the word. A place
for new believers and mature believers. (If we have guest speakers
from time to time this will be their place.)

A strong emphasis on reaching the lost. We (Tina and I) will have a
core of believers we work with, sharing our hearts and laying out a
"message" of the week. This weekly message can be taken by individuals
to share with their circle of disciples. That's it. Your Bible. A
couch. And food!

And before you go "NO WAY!" My "survey" of many of you has indicated
that Sunday morning messages are not necessarily "changing" your life.

This would be our precursor to our NEST training center. We hope it to
be a model for NEST plants as well.

We want to know your thoughts if you will. Please. I have listed them
by step. We do not go to step 2 until step 1 is resolved. We do not go
to step 3 until 2 is resolved. And so on. We can not go forward with
out these steps.

Administration:

We would need 3-4 couples and/or individuals who would plug in with
the day to day parts of ministry that I am not good at. At present
Tina does not have a lot of time, though if you are a woman and
thought she could help you in growing in your Christian walk, you
might ask her. We are not looking to be "pastors" as it is not our
gift. Tina is a gifted teacher and I just like to build things and let
them run. So, what does that mean, when I say "day to day?" I mean we
would need people who will counsel people in truth. We need people
with a willingness to disciple others. People who would occasionally
go to a hospital to visit someone or bring a meal. It would need
someone to help with paperwork and organizing a calendar. Helping
people know what meetings are going on.

Children:

By having a Sunday morning service with no teaching children can join
in eating, worshipping and praying. If we do adult teaching in the
evening one night of the week, then we can figure out children's
studies.

Building:

Our house is already starting to max at 25 and there are many not
coming yet. We will need a building soon. This could be a school, a
Holiday Inn, or the Springfield S&L room. The latter 2 would require
moving our equipment each week. We might even be able to work out an
arrangement with another church for their afternoons on Sunday. We
would need someone to pursue this at the appropriate time. Part of our
offering will be set aside for this. We think the number we max at
here will be 40. When we hit 40 we need to move.

Money:

A few weeks ago I was with Wayne Anderson. He told me to "talk" more
about the kingdom and money. We go by faith. Most of us understand
tithing and offering. But I am being real when I say that if we move
to the next level, then there is money to resolve. Whether it is a
rental space or feeding the poor, we need to agree that money will be
open and discussed. Tina and I have committed our tithe and offering
to this work.

Commitment:

This can not be done by commitment. Tina and I were hurt in a lot of
areas by well meaning people, but we realize we are not "done." If you
are one of the "administration" team we are going to ask you for a
commitment time frame. We feel that is reasonable.

Why would we consider a switch from "home?" Because so much of what we
see happening in the home church of New England is not that much
different than the methods we saw in a more traditional church. I
think what I am suggesting allows flexibility and freedom. Most of us
said we do not need more messages (Even great ones.) but relationship
and sorting out what we already know. Why do I say the lost. This week
I am meeting with a Buddhist who wants to talk about life and it's
meaning. He is one of many I will speak to this week. I want a safe
place for him. If he converts I will be devoted to his care. And we
have seen too many people sitting in homes alone. I do not believe
this is the Lord necessarily. I am concerned about discouragement and
disappointment setting in.

I will tell you. Last night I prayed from 2:30 til about 4:30. I told
God my plans. I felt like He said I was being too safe. It was one of
those "is this the devil speaking" moments. I am concerned. I value my
marriage and my family. I am not trying to kill myself. I am clear
when I say that I do not have the "gift" of pastor. Those who sit on
my couch may differ with that statement. But a week ago I was given
the word by a prophet to build warriors. So, the word says "believe
the prophets and you shall prosper." As I said in the beginning this
is a trial balloon. I shared the word about safe houses. I have been
given very strong words about the exodus to come. I do not want to
miss God.

Tina and I are in prayer about this. Please talk to us.

And see you Tuesday. BTW-it is our 14th anniversary and we want to
share the goodness of our marriage and our home with you.

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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Tuesday Night

Hi folks:

Tomorrow at 6, we will begin with a meal. Followed by worship around 7
and prayer for one another at 8 or so.

Anyone interested in playing for worship time, please let me know.

Looking forward to next week.

Thanks!

Blessings,

Lee & Tina

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