Jim's teching was humorous and with grace. His three finger stock figure was soon replaced by love.
As his friend, I bless him!
lee
The Body of Christ, which part are you? Read Romans 12:3-11
Administration Apostle
Encouragement Prophet
Giving Teachers
Hospitality Evangelist
Mercy Pastor / Shepherd
Serving
Teaching
Prophesy
I would like start by us looking at our human body Romans 12:4 NLT
Just as our bodies have many parts and each part has a special
function, 1 Cor 12: 18 But God made our bodies, and He has put
each part just where He wants it.
(Draws body on the board.)
So it's by God’s own design that are bodies are made the way
they are. We say 2 heads are better than one, why don't we have 2?
How many times have you heard "I wish I had another pair of hands,"
or sometimes “I wish I had eyes in the back of my head.”
And we read in Gen 1:26 and could said, Let us make man in our
own image, in our likeness. You see God made us perfect and
that’s the way He intended the body of Christ to be. Him as the Head,
and born-again believers to make up the rest of the body. It is
up to each one of us to find our place in the body.
1 Cor 12:11 NLT Reads It is the one and only Holy Spirit who
distributes these gifts, He alone decides which gift each person
should have. 12:31 And in any event you should desire the most
helpful gifts.
We should seek the Holy Spirit’s guidance in finding our place in
the body of Christ
TALK ABOUT THE GIFTS
Lets look what we call mega church Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers,
David Wilkerson and Benny Hinn. The people here in this room are just
as important to God as them. You see there churches are made up
of just what we have here.
Talk about the lives.
They may have their name up in lights, but if they didn't have all
the rest of the body, the people behind the scene, the ones we don’t
see they couldn't function as they do.
What I’m trying to say is that, not one part is less important than
the others, not one part is less important in the Eyes of God.
Romans 12:5 so it is with Christ's body. We are all parts of His body
And each of us has different work to do. And since we’re all one
one body in Christ, we belong to each other, and each of us needs
all the others.
Tell about my brother.
You see my brother lost part of a thumb and part of his fore finger,
after he healed up he would find himself trying to use the part of the
thumb and finger that were not there so he had to adapt and overcome the loss of his fingers
What I am saying is he could still function? Yes. Is he 100%? No.
The same is with the body of Christ, it will continue in it's work
but, you will have to find a way to fill in the parts that are missing
that’s why it is important that we use the best gift that God has given
you, no matter if we think our gift not important in the body. All
parts are equally important to the functioning of the body of
Christ.
Romans 12:6-8 NLT God has given each of us the ability to do certain
things well. So if God has given you the ability to prophesy, speak out.
when you have faith that God is speaking through you. 7 If your gift is
that of serving others, serve them well. If you are a teacher, do a good
job teaching. 8 If your gift is to encourage others do it! If you have money,
share it generously. If God has given you leadership ability, take the
the responsibility seriously. And if you have a gift of showing
kindness to others, do it gladly.
You see what is the most important is that whatever your gifts may be
do it whole heartedly; give a 110% in everything you do. Does God
deserve any less? NO! He deserves our best all the time.
And don't think that serving is less of a gift than the others. Here's
two examples. Read Acts 6:1-8
We see here that Steven was called to serve, does that mean that God
couldn't use him to do other things? NO! God used him to do
many signs and wonders. No matter what your gift is if the Holy Spirit
can still use you in another the capacity.
Matt 20:28 NLT Jesus speaking For even I, the Son of Man, came here
not to be served, but to serve others, and to give My life has a ransom
for many. You see even Jesus came to serve, the King of Kings
and Lord of Lords came has a servant. SO you see no gift is any
less important then the others.
(Go to board an erase body.)
I'm going to leave you with this.
All I have said here to day is nothing, it's meaning less with out this
Read 1 Cor 12:31 And in any event, you should desire
the most helpful gifts. First however, let me tell you about some
thing else that is better than any of them! LOVE
You see it's a commandment from God. John 13: 34 So now
I am giving you a new commandment, Love each other. Just
as I have Loved you, you should Love each other.
What has Love got to do with the gifts of the body of Christ?
Everything! If we serve out of selfish gain, to be up front teaching,
preaching, leading worship, for any other reason than the love of
God and the building up of His body then we're doing it for the
wrong reason. It has to be from the heart or its meaning less.
Sunday, November 25, 2007
Monday, November 19, 2007
Overtaking a community for God
Hi folks:
Only a handful are getting this letter. People I think might believe the way I do on some levels. (Feel free to pass it on.)
Ever since I moved to Springfield, I have felt that God wants to overtake this community. Maybe you have similar feelings about your community. Or perhaps a region. So many people feel this way and yet there is no practical move to bring it to pass or at least not a huge one. Christianity has conformed itself to Christian ghettos, meaning we never leave the comfort of our homes. Good meetings do not a church build nor a region or a city taken.
I have studied so many books on the overtaking of a community. I have watched Transformations and believe it still has a shot. About 10 years ago, I began to watch what was happening in Elk River. I have studied it. A little about it can be found here. http://www.rickheeren.org/the-elk-river-story.htm. You can buy the book by clicking on our website here. I have been with some of the people from here. Peter Wagner, Linda Rios Brook, etc..
As you know we have been working on the business ministry. (I hope you have shared about this with your friends.) and a lot of thoughts have been jumbling around my head. This morning they started to get clearer with the idea that we could really overturn a city. (Visit the The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference) For years we have said, "people do not care how much we know, until they know how much we care." A friend of mine says it a little differently. "You will never overturn a region, a city or a country until you solve their problems." And the answer is Jesus. But probably not like most want to think. Jesus sent out people into the region to overturn the culture. And yes, there was prayer, BUT, there was a sending. If we want our inheritance, we have to "follow the rules."
What is the purpose of affluence defined as: A plentiful supply of material goods; wealth. A great quantity; an abundance. A flowing to or toward a point; Wordnet defines it as "abundant wealth." (Hmmm...I think I have heard that somewhere. John 10:10.) You and I will not change an economy without abundant wealth. But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for [it is] he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as [it is] this day. Deu. 8:18. And I believe that this is possible. But first I believe we must embrace a vision for a cultural change. Do I believe healing is from God? Then I must work towards seeing it manifested in my own life. Do I believe wealth is from God, then I must do what it takes to see it directed towards me. I must reach out for what God has promised and never relinquish nor give up. It has a requirement of course, my will for His.
2 Chronicles 20:15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, (We must listen to what He is saying.)Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle [is] not yours, but God's. (We must remove fear by moving ahead.)To morrow go ye down against them: behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel. (We must face our enemy.)Ye shall not [need] to fight in this [battle]: set yourselves, stand ye [still], and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD [will be] with you. (God is with us when we follow His instructions.) And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with [his] face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD. (worship and prayer are critical to the process.) And the Levites, of the children of the Kohathites, and of the children of the Korhites, stood up to praise the LORD God of Israel with a loud voice on high. And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. (The Lord never does anything without revealing it to His prophets.) For us to get what God wants for us to get, we must first get what it is He wants us to get(Hmmm...Strategy and understanding and that He is Lord.).
We can change the culture if we will get "out of bed." We must shake off the slumber, the disappointments, the misunderstandings, and lift ourselves up. While we are unraveling our lives, the Lord uses us to affect the lives of others. God will not use "ghetto dwellers" in this coming move. How can He? There is nothing in His word to assume He would. I would like to see a culture revived, a city transformed. It begins with me and you. I am going to trumpet this word at every chance I get. Our inheritance is at stake. What is it worth to you? Can you believe for and work towards an Acts 2 or 4 community? If you can, perhaps it is time to do something about it. Our worship must be violent, our prayer the same. It is time for the people of God to declare what is to be instead of accepting the status quo. It is not how much we have to do, but what we are doing...is it the Lord?
Just a little tidbit for some close people.
Lee
Lee Johndrow
88 WCFR Drive
Springfield, VT 05156
802-885-2885
Only a handful are getting this letter. People I think might believe the way I do on some levels. (Feel free to pass it on.)
Ever since I moved to Springfield, I have felt that God wants to overtake this community. Maybe you have similar feelings about your community. Or perhaps a region. So many people feel this way and yet there is no practical move to bring it to pass or at least not a huge one. Christianity has conformed itself to Christian ghettos, meaning we never leave the comfort of our homes. Good meetings do not a church build nor a region or a city taken.
I have studied so many books on the overtaking of a community. I have watched Transformations and believe it still has a shot. About 10 years ago, I began to watch what was happening in Elk River. I have studied it. A little about it can be found here. http://www.rickheeren.org/the-elk-river-story.htm. You can buy the book by clicking on our website here. I have been with some of the people from here. Peter Wagner, Linda Rios Brook, etc..
As you know we have been working on the business ministry. (I hope you have shared about this with your friends.) and a lot of thoughts have been jumbling around my head. This morning they started to get clearer with the idea that we could really overturn a city. (Visit the The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference) For years we have said, "people do not care how much we know, until they know how much we care." A friend of mine says it a little differently. "You will never overturn a region, a city or a country until you solve their problems." And the answer is Jesus. But probably not like most want to think. Jesus sent out people into the region to overturn the culture. And yes, there was prayer, BUT, there was a sending. If we want our inheritance, we have to "follow the rules."
What is the purpose of affluence defined as: A plentiful supply of material goods; wealth. A great quantity; an abundance. A flowing to or toward a point; Wordnet defines it as "abundant wealth." (Hmmm...I think I have heard that somewhere. John 10:10.) You and I will not change an economy without abundant wealth. But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for [it is] he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as [it is] this day. Deu. 8:18. And I believe that this is possible. But first I believe we must embrace a vision for a cultural change. Do I believe healing is from God? Then I must work towards seeing it manifested in my own life. Do I believe wealth is from God, then I must do what it takes to see it directed towards me. I must reach out for what God has promised and never relinquish nor give up. It has a requirement of course, my will for His.
2 Chronicles 20:15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, (We must listen to what He is saying.)Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle [is] not yours, but God's. (We must remove fear by moving ahead.)To morrow go ye down against them: behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel. (We must face our enemy.)Ye shall not [need] to fight in this [battle]: set yourselves, stand ye [still], and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD [will be] with you. (God is with us when we follow His instructions.) And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with [his] face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD. (worship and prayer are critical to the process.) And the Levites, of the children of the Kohathites, and of the children of the Korhites, stood up to praise the LORD God of Israel with a loud voice on high. And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. (The Lord never does anything without revealing it to His prophets.) For us to get what God wants for us to get, we must first get what it is He wants us to get(Hmmm...Strategy and understanding and that He is Lord.).
We can change the culture if we will get "out of bed." We must shake off the slumber, the disappointments, the misunderstandings, and lift ourselves up. While we are unraveling our lives, the Lord uses us to affect the lives of others. God will not use "ghetto dwellers" in this coming move. How can He? There is nothing in His word to assume He would. I would like to see a culture revived, a city transformed. It begins with me and you. I am going to trumpet this word at every chance I get. Our inheritance is at stake. What is it worth to you? Can you believe for and work towards an Acts 2 or 4 community? If you can, perhaps it is time to do something about it. Our worship must be violent, our prayer the same. It is time for the people of God to declare what is to be instead of accepting the status quo. It is not how much we have to do, but what we are doing...is it the Lord?
Just a little tidbit for some close people.
Lee
88 WCFR Drive
Springfield, VT 05156
802-885-2885
Sunday, November 18, 2007
The possible weaknesses of the gifts T Johndrow
1.) Serving:
Strengths
A. An ability to see practical needs and a desire to meet them
B. A joy in serving when it frees others to do more important things
C. A willingness to sacrifice time & resources to serve others
D. A special enjoyment in providing for physical needs and comforts (can remember likes and dislikes)
A strong desire to be with others, providing more serving opportunities
Weaknesses
A. Neglecting home responsibilities to help others.
B. Accepting too many jobs at one time (cannot say ‘no’)
C. Wear themselves out physically.
D. Sometimes too persistent in giving unrequested help to others.
E. Going around proper authorities to get job done.
F. Interfering with God’s discipline by premature help.
G. Excluding others from helping on a job (difficult to delegate)
H. Getting sidetracked while working on an assignment.
I. Being hurt by ungratefulness of those helped.
Giving :
Strengths
1. A keen ability to discern wise investments in order to have more money available to give away
2. A desire to give quietly without public notice
3. A desire to give gifts which are of high quality
4. An ability to see financial needs which others tend to overlook
5. A desire to use giving as a way to motivate others to give
Weaknesses
1. Giving too sparingly to own family.
2. Causing family to resent those to whom gifts are given.
3. Listening to unscriptural counsel on money management.
4. Putting pressure on people who have less to give.
5. Failing to discern God’s promptings for giving.
6. Judging those who misuse funds rather than aiding them.
7. Controlling people or ministries by giving.
8. Corrupting people by giving too much.
9. Investing in projects that do not benefit people’s lives.
3.Mercy:
Strengths:
1. Ability to sense and express genuine love (1 John 4:8)
2. A need for deep friendships in which there is mutual commitment (John 13:23)
3. A greater concern over mental joy or distress than physical concerns (1 Jn 3:17)
4. A tendency to attract people who are having mental and emotional distress.
5. A desire to remove the causes of hurts rather than to look for benefits from them.
Weak
1. Failing to be firm and decisive when necessary.
2. A tendency to react harshly when intimate friends are rejected (Luke 9:53-54)
3. A greater vulnerability to deeper and more frequent hurts from the lack of love (can take up offenses for hurts of others).
4. Basing decisions on emotions rather than on reason.
5. Promoting improper affections from the opposite sex.
6. Cutting off fellowship with those who are insensitive to others.
7. Reacting to God’s purpose in allowing people to suffer.
8. Sympathizing with those violating God’s standards.
9. Establishing possessive relationships with others.
4.Exhortation:
Strengths:
1. A motivation to urge people to their full spiritual maturity in Christ.
2. An ability to discern where a person is in spiritual growth and to speak on that level.
3. A desire to give precise: steps of action in urging people toward spiritual maturity.
4. A drive to explain truth with logical reasoning, in order to make it accepted.
5. An ability to visualize spiritual achievement for people and to use this to motivate them to action.
6. A desire for face-to-face discussion in order to determine and insure a positive response.
7. An ability to identify with people of different types and backgrounds in order to gain a wider hearing.
8. A motivation to bring harmony between diverse groups of Christians, and an awareness that harmony is basic to spiritual maturity.
9. An ability to welcome personal tribulation as a chief motivator of spiritual growth
Weaknesses
1. Raising the expectations of others prematurely.
2. Taking ‘family time’ to counsel others.
3. Treating family and friends as “Projects” rather than people.
4. Sharing private illustrations without permission.
5. Jumping into new projects without finishing existing ones.
6. Encouraging others to depend on them rather than God.
7. Trusting visible results rather than true change of heart.
8. Neglecting proper emphasis on basic Bible doctrine.
9. Giving counsel before discerning the type of problem or person.
5. Administration :
1. An ability to visualize the final result of a major undertaking
2. An ability to break down major goals into smaller, achievable tasks
3. An ability to know what resources are available and needed to reach a goal
4. A tendency to remove himself from distracting details in order to focus on the ultimate goal
5. A willingness to endure reaction from insiders and outsiders in order to reach an ultimate goal
6. A need for loyalty and confidence from those who are being directed and served
7. An ability to know what he should and should not delegate to others
8. An ability to inspire and encourage workers by cheerfulness, approval, praise, and challenges
9. A joy and fulfillment in seeing all the parts come together in a finished product
Weaknesses
1. Viewing people as ‘human resources’ rather than human beings.
2. Using people to accomplish personal ambitions.
3. Showing favoritism to those who seem most loyal.
4. Taking charge of projects that are not God’s direction.
5. Delegating too much work to others.
6. Overlooking serious character faults in valuable workers.
7. Being unresponsive to suggestions and appeals.
8. Failure in giving proper explanations and praises to workers.
6. Evangelism
Strengths:
Have a heart for the lost
Have an intuition for the persons relationship with the Lord
Weaknesses
Can be dogmatic
Take it personally when someone isn't ready for salvation
7. Pastor/Shepherd
Strengths
Never give up
Gentle when needed
Weaknesses
Overlook the sin issues
Take on more than they should
Guilt
8. Prophet
Strengths
See right to the heart of an issue.
Motivated to reveal what is true
Concerned with revealing the other person's motives
Have a natural discernment
Weaknesses
It is hard to keep quiet when they feel the truth is being twisted, hidden or offended
They usually lack tact
They need to learn to speak the truth in love
They need to know “when” to speak and who to speak to
9. Teaching
Strengths
Is motivated to validate the truth
Wants to know “why”, “how”, “when”, “where” details
They put the details in order
Weaknesses
They can be really boring
They have to tell you “why” they are qualified to do what they do
They place a lot of importance on “degrees”
They won't listen to you if they feel you are “qualified”
More info than you could ever use
Not practical in every day language
Easily offended and critical
Strengths
A. An ability to see practical needs and a desire to meet them
B. A joy in serving when it frees others to do more important things
C. A willingness to sacrifice time & resources to serve others
D. A special enjoyment in providing for physical needs and comforts (can remember likes and dislikes)
A strong desire to be with others, providing more serving opportunities
Weaknesses
A. Neglecting home responsibilities to help others.
B. Accepting too many jobs at one time (cannot say ‘no’)
C. Wear themselves out physically.
D. Sometimes too persistent in giving unrequested help to others.
E. Going around proper authorities to get job done.
F. Interfering with God’s discipline by premature help.
G. Excluding others from helping on a job (difficult to delegate)
H. Getting sidetracked while working on an assignment.
I. Being hurt by ungratefulness of those helped.
Giving :
Strengths
1. A keen ability to discern wise investments in order to have more money available to give away
2. A desire to give quietly without public notice
3. A desire to give gifts which are of high quality
4. An ability to see financial needs which others tend to overlook
5. A desire to use giving as a way to motivate others to give
Weaknesses
1. Giving too sparingly to own family.
2. Causing family to resent those to whom gifts are given.
3. Listening to unscriptural counsel on money management.
4. Putting pressure on people who have less to give.
5. Failing to discern God’s promptings for giving.
6. Judging those who misuse funds rather than aiding them.
7. Controlling people or ministries by giving.
8. Corrupting people by giving too much.
9. Investing in projects that do not benefit people’s lives.
3.Mercy:
Strengths:
1. Ability to sense and express genuine love (1 John 4:8)
2. A need for deep friendships in which there is mutual commitment (John 13:23)
3. A greater concern over mental joy or distress than physical concerns (1 Jn 3:17)
4. A tendency to attract people who are having mental and emotional distress.
5. A desire to remove the causes of hurts rather than to look for benefits from them.
Weak
1. Failing to be firm and decisive when necessary.
2. A tendency to react harshly when intimate friends are rejected (Luke 9:53-54)
3. A greater vulnerability to deeper and more frequent hurts from the lack of love (can take up offenses for hurts of others).
4. Basing decisions on emotions rather than on reason.
5. Promoting improper affections from the opposite sex.
6. Cutting off fellowship with those who are insensitive to others.
7. Reacting to God’s purpose in allowing people to suffer.
8. Sympathizing with those violating God’s standards.
9. Establishing possessive relationships with others.
4.Exhortation:
Strengths:
1. A motivation to urge people to their full spiritual maturity in Christ.
2. An ability to discern where a person is in spiritual growth and to speak on that level.
3. A desire to give precise: steps of action in urging people toward spiritual maturity.
4. A drive to explain truth with logical reasoning, in order to make it accepted.
5. An ability to visualize spiritual achievement for people and to use this to motivate them to action.
6. A desire for face-to-face discussion in order to determine and insure a positive response.
7. An ability to identify with people of different types and backgrounds in order to gain a wider hearing.
8. A motivation to bring harmony between diverse groups of Christians, and an awareness that harmony is basic to spiritual maturity.
9. An ability to welcome personal tribulation as a chief motivator of spiritual growth
Weaknesses
1. Raising the expectations of others prematurely.
2. Taking ‘family time’ to counsel others.
3. Treating family and friends as “Projects” rather than people.
4. Sharing private illustrations without permission.
5. Jumping into new projects without finishing existing ones.
6. Encouraging others to depend on them rather than God.
7. Trusting visible results rather than true change of heart.
8. Neglecting proper emphasis on basic Bible doctrine.
9. Giving counsel before discerning the type of problem or person.
5. Administration :
1. An ability to visualize the final result of a major undertaking
2. An ability to break down major goals into smaller, achievable tasks
3. An ability to know what resources are available and needed to reach a goal
4. A tendency to remove himself from distracting details in order to focus on the ultimate goal
5. A willingness to endure reaction from insiders and outsiders in order to reach an ultimate goal
6. A need for loyalty and confidence from those who are being directed and served
7. An ability to know what he should and should not delegate to others
8. An ability to inspire and encourage workers by cheerfulness, approval, praise, and challenges
9. A joy and fulfillment in seeing all the parts come together in a finished product
Weaknesses
1. Viewing people as ‘human resources’ rather than human beings.
2. Using people to accomplish personal ambitions.
3. Showing favoritism to those who seem most loyal.
4. Taking charge of projects that are not God’s direction.
5. Delegating too much work to others.
6. Overlooking serious character faults in valuable workers.
7. Being unresponsive to suggestions and appeals.
8. Failure in giving proper explanations and praises to workers.
6. Evangelism
Strengths:
Have a heart for the lost
Have an intuition for the persons relationship with the Lord
Weaknesses
Can be dogmatic
Take it personally when someone isn't ready for salvation
7. Pastor/Shepherd
Strengths
Never give up
Gentle when needed
Weaknesses
Overlook the sin issues
Take on more than they should
Guilt
8. Prophet
Strengths
See right to the heart of an issue.
Motivated to reveal what is true
Concerned with revealing the other person's motives
Have a natural discernment
Weaknesses
It is hard to keep quiet when they feel the truth is being twisted, hidden or offended
They usually lack tact
They need to learn to speak the truth in love
They need to know “when” to speak and who to speak to
9. Teaching
Strengths
Is motivated to validate the truth
Wants to know “why”, “how”, “when”, “where” details
They put the details in order
Weaknesses
They can be really boring
They have to tell you “why” they are qualified to do what they do
They place a lot of importance on “degrees”
They won't listen to you if they feel you are “qualified”
More info than you could ever use
Not practical in every day language
Easily offended and critical
Sunday, November 11, 2007
Mike Kohler on the Spiritual Gifts
Spiritual Gifts
1 Peter 4:10 NLT
God has given gifts to each of you from His great variety of spiritual gifts. Manage them well so that God’s generosity (grace) can flow through you.
Gifts- Special abilities given to believers through the grace of God
Most of you know what my spiritual gifting is and as I work on developing my gifts I am learning a lot. One of the things I am starting to do is reach out to other churches and ministries in the area. I went and met pastor Dave, who seems like a great guy. I liked him because he was bigger and balder then I was. If you want to see how God orchestrates things his study for the group that night was “Bringing our gifts together in the body”
exactly what we are talking about this month. I am going to try to get to meet the other pastors and leaders in our community because as we grow to 700 they will also grow. PVBC also has a vision and it is 700, Springfield can easily support 10 churches of 700.
Who knows what the 5 fold ministry gifts are? Apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor-shepherd, and teacher.
Read story from PVBC
Use the blender explain how each part is needed even plugged in which is our connection to the holy spirit
In the last few weeks God has been shifting things around. We have taken test and looked at what our spiritual gifts are. Our teachings for the month is how they work together with each other. And our body of believers is shifting and lining people up with their gifts to use them as God has intended. On a construction job you do not take a mason and have him do the wiring. He may have a knowledge of electrical but that is not where he is skilled at. A mistake in wiring can burn down a house. And it goes the other way if an electrician laid the blocks it is possible for the foundation to crumble. That is the same in the church and may be a reason why the church at large has had problems. If the person who is in charge who most likely in all churches is called the pastor and he is not gifted in that area then you may have a mason doing the wiring. The church needs all the gifts like a job site needs an electrician, mason, carpenter, plumber and so on to work in their trades. You take one of those out and the home does not get built correctly. If someone is trying to do all of it themselves the job may never get done or take years to complete. Each person has to take charge of their own responsibility. How many churches do we see the pastor is doing all things for all people. How many of those churches do we see people getting hurt or those who don’t understand their gifting just sit there and stay frustrated or jump from one church to the next with whoever has the next good idea. We need everyone working in their gifts to build this house. It is like a building inspector checking the house. If the mason is doing electrical the inspector is not going to give approval. If God sees the same is he going to give His approval or grace on a building that may be weak. God wants the mason to lay the block, it may look wrong to the other trades but he has the ability to use what God has blessed him with. And sometime a couple of bricks may fall out before the mason gets a good understanding on his work. Mistakes are where Father daddy teaches us.
A properly built home does not have future problems when the builders work together in their gifts. It will be a home that can last for generations without major problems. Sure there will be an occasional light bulb burn out or a plumbing leak, sometimes the furnace goes but when these things are maintained and repaired or even replaced the house keeps on going.
1 Are we using our gifts to the fullest abilities? And don’t be afraid to make mistakes, that is how we learn.
2. How much more will those around us be blessed if we are using our gifts?
3. How much more will we be blessed using our gifts?
4. What are the possibilities of a church body if we walk out fully by faith in the gifts the father has given us.
This was a very cool teaching! lee
1 Peter 4:10 NLT
God has given gifts to each of you from His great variety of spiritual gifts. Manage them well so that God’s generosity (grace) can flow through you.
Gifts- Special abilities given to believers through the grace of God
Most of you know what my spiritual gifting is and as I work on developing my gifts I am learning a lot. One of the things I am starting to do is reach out to other churches and ministries in the area. I went and met pastor Dave, who seems like a great guy. I liked him because he was bigger and balder then I was. If you want to see how God orchestrates things his study for the group that night was “Bringing our gifts together in the body”
exactly what we are talking about this month. I am going to try to get to meet the other pastors and leaders in our community because as we grow to 700 they will also grow. PVBC also has a vision and it is 700, Springfield can easily support 10 churches of 700.
Who knows what the 5 fold ministry gifts are? Apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor-shepherd, and teacher.
Read story from PVBC
Use the blender explain how each part is needed even plugged in which is our connection to the holy spirit
In the last few weeks God has been shifting things around. We have taken test and looked at what our spiritual gifts are. Our teachings for the month is how they work together with each other. And our body of believers is shifting and lining people up with their gifts to use them as God has intended. On a construction job you do not take a mason and have him do the wiring. He may have a knowledge of electrical but that is not where he is skilled at. A mistake in wiring can burn down a house. And it goes the other way if an electrician laid the blocks it is possible for the foundation to crumble. That is the same in the church and may be a reason why the church at large has had problems. If the person who is in charge who most likely in all churches is called the pastor and he is not gifted in that area then you may have a mason doing the wiring. The church needs all the gifts like a job site needs an electrician, mason, carpenter, plumber and so on to work in their trades. You take one of those out and the home does not get built correctly. If someone is trying to do all of it themselves the job may never get done or take years to complete. Each person has to take charge of their own responsibility. How many churches do we see the pastor is doing all things for all people. How many of those churches do we see people getting hurt or those who don’t understand their gifting just sit there and stay frustrated or jump from one church to the next with whoever has the next good idea. We need everyone working in their gifts to build this house. It is like a building inspector checking the house. If the mason is doing electrical the inspector is not going to give approval. If God sees the same is he going to give His approval or grace on a building that may be weak. God wants the mason to lay the block, it may look wrong to the other trades but he has the ability to use what God has blessed him with. And sometime a couple of bricks may fall out before the mason gets a good understanding on his work. Mistakes are where Father daddy teaches us.
A properly built home does not have future problems when the builders work together in their gifts. It will be a home that can last for generations without major problems. Sure there will be an occasional light bulb burn out or a plumbing leak, sometimes the furnace goes but when these things are maintained and repaired or even replaced the house keeps on going.
1 Are we using our gifts to the fullest abilities? And don’t be afraid to make mistakes, that is how we learn.
2. How much more will those around us be blessed if we are using our gifts?
3. How much more will we be blessed using our gifts?
4. What are the possibilities of a church body if we walk out fully by faith in the gifts the father has given us.
This was a very cool teaching! lee
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