Tuesday, November 14, 2006

Tonight-Tuesday

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":

As you know, tonight is a time to gather for adults. We will have a
meal at 6 as usual, so bring what you need. At 7 we will begin to
dialog what is going to happen here. If you have any questions, please
call me, not write as I will be out of the loop until after 2 and may
not get back to you. Cell phone works best.

Blessings</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Love
from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Tonight-Tuesday

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":

As you know, tonight is a time to gather for adults. We will have a
meal at 6 as usual, so bring what you need. At 7 we will begin to
dialog what is going to happen here. If you have any questions, please
call me, not write as I will be out of the loop until after 2 and may
not get back to you. Cell phone works best.

Blessings</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Love
from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Sunday, November 12, 2006

Sunday Morning went well and other notes

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

This morning went well. It is clear that God is getting ready to do
something different. Tina and I got there a little after 8 and as we
prayed the Lord began to shape things. Others came in after 9 and more
prayer came forth. Worship was different and that is all I can say.
And things are in a state of flux. Flux is a result of heating up when
it describes a state. or condition.

Last weekend Tina and I received a few words and God not only
confirmed them He brought it in above and beyond all that we can
think. Then I went to an apostolic summit and received many words.
Again I sowed into the words. On Friday & Saturday we sowed more at a
meeting called Upward Call. (Awesome meeting! God bless Darryl &
Martha!) We came home to such an increase words can not describe it. I
feel like we stepped into the center of the stream of His blessings.
Above and beyond what we can comprehend. It is clear that as we
fulfill the roles God has spoken to us through prophets and apostles
we will be blessed. God wants to bring an increase to His people.

One of the last words I received on Wednesday from Phil Zaldatte said
this. "I have seen you in a fishbowl and the Lord has brought His
hammer to smash it, that you are no longer contained. The last season
is over and a new one is upon you. You will see a restoration of old
relationships and you will bring reconciliation to the region. God has
given you a business anointing and many will sow into ventures He is
giving you." This is very similar to a word Micheal Pipes gave me
years ago, and certainly similar to the ones I get.

I think that the Lord is doing this right now in Springfield. He is
building a people of prayer and worship. The reason we are downtown
meeting in a bank is to bring light to His community. We received good
words last weekend about this. By building deeper relationships. After
the words I received on Wednesday, I know that I am not to even try to
touch the "pastoral" of this work nor is Tina. There are 3 men and 1
women I believe could begin to fulfill this. And by January I expect
at least one of them will be in place. This is important for people to
know. We are a ministry that is built on the foundations of the
apostolic and prophetic (Ephesians 2:20) not pastoral.

Apostles will be those that build according to the plans brought forth
through the Lord and his prophets.

Prophets will bring about blueprints and work in conjunction with the
apostles.

Pastoral gifts will disciple, instruct in accordance with the
foundation set in place by the gifts of apostles and prophets. They
will be the "shepherds" of the people.

Evangelists will bring the people into the body, after seeing their
lives converted.

Teachers will bring the wisdom and teachings of God to the body of
believers.

We are going to percolate this work by prayer and worship. The next
few months will be solidifying things. By January I expect us to be in
place for reaching out at a greater extent. The Lord showed me 100
people. Hmmm. The word will be brought into the house. I think we are
looking at clear teaching gifts being used in this capacity.

Tuesday nights. Tuesday nights will be taking a shift. We will be
meeting this Tuesday (Adults only) to fellowship, to discuss the
meetings on Sunday, to impart training and to receive from the gifts
of teacher, apostle and prophet.

I need to say this. Many of you are believers of many years and you
may have been around the mountain(We were not excluded from this
process.) Tuesdays are going to begin to shape themselves around the
training center thought process. Some of the thoughts are we are not
going around the mountain again and want you to have a similar thought
process. Those that are trained will be leading small groups, the
Sunday body and traveling with us. I have already begun the process of
embracing the words given on Wednesday and have repented from the
words I left on the shelf. You will be told more about this process on
Tuesday. These people will be part of what our overall vision is
doing. Where we see it going as it is refined by the lord and counsel.
Our job is to equip people for the work of the Kingdom. God's job is
to build His church upon the revelation of Jesus Christ. We will do
ours and believe he will do His. I am going to begin to limit my time
of instruction and guidance to those who are working with us. That
group will not be all that large. Perhaps no more than dozen.

I have been told I will be "busy, busy, busy" with regional meetings.
It is the people. who are trained, that will go with us. This will
include five-fold, prayer people, gifts of hospitality and helps and
music. The training will not only strengthen the local church but it
will prepare people to travel with us. We believe the breaking of the
fishbowl word. Springfield desperately needs a body of believers who
will do the stuff. Many of you have a heart for the body of believers
here in Springfield. Tim T. told us to prepare for the exodus.

Relationships are not forged but begun on Sunday. Your relationships
are forged in your developing time with one another. We pray for this
to come to pass.

One little prayer request. Please pray for Tina with regard to her job
as the Lord touches your heart.

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Love
from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Saturday, November 11, 2006

Sunday

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>A
reminder that tomorrow we will be at the Springfield S&L at 9. We will
gather to pray for the community and fellowship until 10. At 10 we
will play worship and pray for one another followed by a meal.

Tuesday night will be adults only for training and fellowship.

The 28th will be Darryl and Martha Rodman. We were with them Friday
and today. Great time. A lot came out of it that has to do with us and
the meetings here.

Again Tuesday nights will be training and fellowship.

We have decided to percolate this meeting on Sunday through the first.
I have some expectations as you do. We will discuss these on Tuesday
and a little tomorrow.

Please note you may have tried to write me and my email has succumbed
to something. Hopefully by Monday most of my email addresses will be
operative. It appears to be an attack against a group of words I
received on Wednesday.

Love from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Friday, November 10, 2006

Prayer answered and evangelist M.S.

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Answered
prayer in caps...

*Family with no car-needs it to get work.

*Young man run over by truck and in hospital. HEALED BY THE POWER OF
GOD WITH CREATIVE MIRACLE. HE WAS SENT HOME AND IS WALKING WITH LITTLE
MORE THAN A BRUISE.

*Family needs job for oil bill and food.

*Wife is pretty sick. DOING MUCH BETTER

*Husband in family needs job to support family

*Couple has had delay in fuel supply. ANSWERED

*Man overcoming depression and getting work.

*Couple seeking the Lord's direction.

*Man looking to have greater intimacy with the Lord.

*Vehicle in need of serious repair.

*Man seeking work to help with bills.

*Couple needing God's blessing on their business of years.

Also, a brother in the Lord, Mark Sanchez will be at the Springfield
S&L. He sent me this letter. I will be out of town. Any help
available...

</color><excerpt> I am going up to Springfield on the 18th. Do you
want to partner with

me for the meeting. Can you pick up the Key for me on the 17th from the

savings and loan? It is going to be focused on healing and praying for

those in need of physical healing. I would like to involve your
ministry

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Love from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

Tuesday, November 07, 2006

Pray

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Perhaps
it is unnecessary to say...but a lot of prayer is needed in the body.

Here are some of the things going on that I have been praying for and
working to help with in the last day or so.

*Family with no car-needs it to get work.

*Young man run over by truck and in hospital.

*Family needs job for oil bill and food.

*Wife is pretty sick.

*Husband in family needs job to support family

*Couple has had delay in fuel supply.

*Man overcoming depression and getting work.

*Couple seeking the Lord's direction.

*Man looking to have greater intimacy with the Lord.

*Vehicle in need of serious repair.

*Man seeking work to help with bills.

*Couple needing God's blessing on their business of years.

You can see that this list is extensive. We need to come together and
encourage one another. Not pie in the sky foolishness, but loving
kindness, support and encouragement.

Love from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Lee & Tina Johndrow

www.vermontel.com/~servant/ministryopportunity

This Sunday

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Thank
you for all the feedback given. (Can always use more!)

We received words from God as well on Sunday.

Important words given to us and I believe they will help connect some
of the dots. One of those words came from Pat Halloran and he said "I
did not need to know that you had been a bartender in a previous life
to know that you are now. The generational blessings are all over
you." We had a very good time at Ken & Laurie's being able to hook up
with a friend from 30 years ago, who I do not see enough of. Kevin
gave Tina and I words that moving into the bank building on Sundays
was going to have a lot to do with the marketplace here. That there
was a sound coming forth that we would resonate with. That the sound
of heaven would replace the howling of the night. (Anyone had a hard
time with the nights?) That we would pray for Chester and vice versa.
Mike K. received a word that is not unlike the words he has received
in the past, but his and Carol's time is coming closer.

Let me tell you that there is an excitement and a trepidation here as
we move ahead. We have failed at things in the past. As I told that to
another yesterday, I said that it was not without some fear we move
ahead.

Overall our ministry and it's people have had lots of words about the
marketplace and the prophetic. This morning I was awake at 5
prophesying to the businesses and the marketplace of this area. I have
been doing the same for a while. Over the last week I received 3 words
regarding finances. Yesterday, I felt and saw the manifestation of the
dam breaking. Monies we had waited on flowed into the household. I
believe it was a token of goodness on God's part to say that "you are
in the army now." He had been waiting for us to align ourselves with
His blessings.

Over the last few weeks I have had many friends hurting in the area of
finance. Monies held up, things stolen, things taken, things lost.
What is God doing? I want to know. You want to know. (Don't you?) We
must avoid the "doesn't God love us," syndrome that the enemy wants to
drop on us. I want answers! A young man was run over by a truck
yesterday. He and his family used to be part of our ministry here.
(Please pray for him.) What is going on here, Lord? A friend of mine
had his identity stolen(through a cell phone provider.) and savings
that he and his wife had planned for retirement(He is 70.). Things
have been weird. For a lot of us.

This is my answer. I felt the Lord say "Whom do you put your trust
in?" Nothing more. Nothing less. Please look at that.

Sunday-a time of refreshing and gathering in His name. A safe place to
tell someone you are glad they are here. A place to connect. The other
day I heard a lot about the Kingdom. It is a frequent meditation of
mine. What does the "Kingdom is at hand" mean? I felt the Lord prompt
that just as a sperm cell and an ova combine and create a new being,
so does the connection of believers coming together further the
Kingdom. A new entity(Kingdom) is created and readied to go forth.

Look forward to seeing you!

Love from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Sunday, November 05, 2006

Letters and comments received about Sunday FAQ's

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Thanks
for the letters and comments of support. Deeper relationships. It is
evident that is what we all want.

So, let me honor things as they have come to me. And they are not in
any particular order.

Meeting-At the Springfield Savings & Loan on Main Street in
Springfield 9-12.

Music-so far we have Aaron G. and Aaron S. who have been playing on
Tuesday nights ushering in a wonderful spirit. I hope we will see more
of this. I know there are some drummers floating around and hopefully
some more instruments will join in. (I wrote this in
'96-</color><italic>I believe God is going to develop a worship and a
worship team to carry the message of freedom and grace.</italic>) Your
gift of music is always appreciated. Please note we are hindered by
sound system capability at this point so, perhaps an amp for now. and
worship people-be ready. Sunday morning is not the time to practice(do
this during the week) or do something new. We want a system that is
easy to follow and for others to plug into.

Clarifying Sunday-Sunday is predominantly for the believer. It will be
a time of fellowship and food(details to be worked out on the food), a
time of praying for one another and time for worship. Worship may only
be a CD being played in the initial stages. Sunday will be a day of
parents(Need help? Ask.) bringing the training of their children into
worship and praying for one another into the church corporate setting.
As the result of parental guidance at home in these areas, it is our
hope that children will worship and pray for one another...and of
course eat! Sunday will be a day where we bring new believers and
introduce them into the process of worship, prayer and community. We
may have a few minutes of exhortation. We may have prophecy. We may
direct prayer into the community. But mostly, it is to connect and to
bless God for what He has done. We can be "free" with the process of
Sunday. Other believers can come and take it back to their bodies,
whether they be home or corporate. Our teaching/training will be
reserved for our Tuesday nights and ultimately our training center.

Clarifying Tuesday-This will be a time of training. Bring the unsaved
if you would like. It is the word of God and His anointing on it, that
transforms. It is for adults and children who can sit and learn and
participate. If your 5 year old can worship and pray and preach, then
bring him or her. If they will study and do homework, bring them. If
not, until they are trained do not frustrate your self or them.
Perhaps some of the young adults would be interested in sitting for
your children (so that husbands and wives can come together.). And we
will have small meal and a time of fellowship for the adults. When we
have guests(Like the 28th of this month-Darryl & Martha Rodman) it
will be on Tuesday nights for this season.

Young people(13-25)-there seems to be an awakening among that group
coming. So if you want to ignite your own children and build
continuity, invite them to your home(Prepare lots of food!), and see
where it goes.

Singles-I think the same rule applies. Open your homes to the
believers who are single. They often feel left out and left to their
own devices.

Children-for now, we are on the team of it is a parental
responsibility to train up their child into worship and prayer and the
word. But, I am hoping that mature, experienced believers will be
allowed to get into the picture as time and parents allow. A few
children adopting an elderly person in a nursing home or senior
building can go a long way for both. If children are participating
they are changing. And perhaps in the future, there can be a a
gathering geared just to the children. But please-no flannel
boards:<<) Maybe some of you can talk to us about this. David Walters
has some very good material.

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Commitment-I am concerned about commitment. Commitment is one of the
dichotomies or parallels of church. We need to ask for commitment on
some levels; whether it be music, money or ministry or adherence to
the word. People are counting on you just as you are counting on them
to share your gift. And at the same time we want it to be Spirit led.
So, let's make it easy. Until many are here, we have greater reliance
on few. Tina and I are committed to the process but can not be there
every Sunday. We want you to take a Sunday off occasionally as well.
Go to another church body, visit family, etc. Just let us know, if you
have made commitments to music, etc. here, so that we can cover. We
need people to agree to open the doors when we are not there.

Leaders-Tina and I have accepted the "challenge" of leading this group
for this season. (Many of you are leaders who have not fulfilled your
destiny. We hope that changes. A leader can be one who faithfully
opens their home every week to study scripture.) We are going to be
raising up some others to have their hand on this over the next 6
months so that they can manage the day to day activities and things
related to Sundays. We believe that is what we are to do. Our future
will be the training center and travel, taking people with us where we
go through NEST.

Training-We will be preparing you for ministering one to another,
ministering to the lost and going and doing the "stuff."

Ministry-What is ministry? It is the overflowing of the Spirit's love
through you. It is not forced. Like a tree growing apples, there is no
straining and neither ought there to be in ministry. This has a lot to
do with the fruits of the spirit. No tree ever strained to produce
fruit. Embrace the Son, be watered by the word and the changes will
come.

Five-fold- wow. where do we go? Some will be teachers and we will see
you in the training center. Some have hearts to help people-perhaps
you are a pastor. Some love telling the unsaved about the Lord. Please
go do it. (Don't try and evangelize the church.) Some are builders.
You will see the fruit. And some are prophets. Again you will see the
fruit. Please note, a pastor is not necessarily a leader. Do not fall
into the American way of thinking. And let us just build deeper
relationships, using our gifts.

Money-For ministry to be done, it will require money. Everyone on this
lists understands tithing and offering. (Whether that indicates
transformation or not, time will tell.) Know that we will be praying
for finances and this will be critical. If we want to reach the poor,
it will take money and time. The word stewardship will become more and
more important in the days to come. O</color>ne who manages another's
property, finances, or other affairs is how it is defined. It also
includes talents and gifts. Only yesterday I came home to be blessed
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Our time commitment-This has to do with Tina and I. We are going to be
committed to the work of the ministry. That includes a small group of
believers who are our friends or spiritual children. We are going to
give our all to these 12 or so people. Many of these people have been
with us a long time. My criteria will be commitment to one another,
Springfield and moving ahead. We encourage you to consider the same.
No one can build deep or deeper relationships with 25 people. Most of
you have some really good friends. Enhance them. Take these
relationships to the next level.

Homes-The opening of your homes is critical to the process of the
Kingdom going forth. When you open your home to unbelievers you
embrace a biblical precedent. It is the opportunity to have believers
and pre-Christians in the room as you teach them to pray and to
understand Him. I know at least one couple who has their home open and
would love to have others join them as they break open the word,
worship and pray.

Reasoning together-Aaron S. and I do a lot of "reasoning" together as
I often do with Ken. We are not debater's. Learn to reason. Learn to
be open to the new and not understood. Be willing to have the eyes of
your understanding opened.

Excitement-A lot of people think excitement happens in the "church." I
do not necessarily see that. I believe it can. But most revivals start
outside the realm of the "church" per se. The 120 in the upper room,
saw no excitement until they took it outside. Most miracles and
healings happen when the lost are around.

Simple-In all things we are striving for simplicity. It leaves little
room for chaos and allows newcomers to plug in.

PCF-If you have questions about our stance, our finances, or our
organization, please let us know. We are a 501(c)3 non-profit church
by IRS status. Your donations are tax deductible. (You may give
through credit card or checking account online at Paypal. If you need
information on this please let me know.) You may view our articles of
Incorporation, including our by-laws, with the State of Vermont.

We are seeking transformation for ourselves, for you and for our
community. Transformation is the process of embracing an idea and
never turning back, but as the result of the encounter with Him and
His teaching, we change. For instance-we may understand giving to the
poor of our time and our money, but until we do it, we have not been
transformed.

i know it is a lot, but I feel each of you and your questions and
concerns are important.

FEEDBACK APPRECIATED!

Love from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

Saturday, November 04, 2006

Something to think about

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":</fontfamily>

 

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>I want to share something first. A
book I received called <underline>REVOLUTION </underline>by George
Barna<underline> </underline>had this to say regarding the state of
the majority of churched Christians based on research.

Regarding worship...</fontfamily>

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Coming
to "church" was the only time they worship God.

8 out of 10 do not experience a connection during worship.

50% say that have not experienced His presence this year.

75% say they expect to get something out of worship, where as only 25%
offer to Him.

Regarding Spiritual Growth...

9% have a biblical world view

Even though majority say the Bible is true they spend more time on TV

Majority defined success by money, acquisitions an physical
things-less than 10% defined their lives by God

Regarding resource Investment...

Overall less than 1 out of 10 give to church or non-profits. 3% giving
over the year and happy with it. 1/3rd give over 10%

Less than 1 out of 20 described stewardship in terms of time,
relationships, ideas or skills

Most can not tell if there money changes lives

Regarding Spiritual Friendships...

Less than 1 out of 6 has a relationship with another that includes
spiritual accountability

Majority gleaned influential teachings from media, law or family...not
church.

Regarding Family Faith...

Majority relies on church to train children.

Less than 1 out of 10 gather outside of church to pray or worship, and
the same applies to Bible study or helping the disadvantaged.

The likelihood of divorce is the same among Christians as that of
unbelievers.

Majority spends less than 3 hours per month on God related endeavors

Most Christian parents do not believe they are doing a good job with
their kids.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, as we move to Sunday morning(Beginning next weekend at the
Springfield S&L conference room, we need to have prayer and overturn
some of these stats. We will fill you in by Tuesday. Some of you have
asked some really good questions and that is why I shared this first.
We want to be revolutionary in the fact that we change ourselves, one
another and this community!

Please pray for one another and be a blessing. Seek to bless more than
be blessed.

Love from Tina and Lee.

</color></fontfamily>Pillar of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Tuesday Night Nov 1

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Dear Tuesday night "followers":

Last night was wonderful.

After a pasta dinner(Thanks everyone!) we began our night of worship.
First we prayed for our community and the return of His Spirit. And
then we worshipped. My wife said it was a sweet presence and that no
one felt like they "had" to do anything, it just happened. Many people
received prayer. The Lord allowed me to see many pictures for people.
And boy! Am I glad we are in November. Last night we had some visitors
and that was cool.

As I shared last night with some, there is something different
happening. Yesterday, I met with some people in government here in
Springfield. They were glad to have me coming back to downtown with
business and they felt something was different. As a result, I will
need some people to pray for some specific things and if that is you,
let me know. There are things happening this week that are important
to Springfield and Vermont. It is quite conceivable there is a mighty
shift coming. For those of you who have never read of the revival in
Springfield, go to the website at the bottom of his letter. At the top
of the page there is a link.

The "rumors" are true. We are on the way to having a meetings on
Sunday. Tina has secured a location and we will update you. Also,
Darryl & Martha Rodman have offered to be here on the 28th of this
month and we will be working on that. This constitutes a change in
things to come. One of the things I would like to say is this. We will
have emphasis on the following areas.

Worship and Prayer-We all are enjoying this

Loving God, ourselves and one another-This has been increasing

Ministering to the poor of the area-Can we say Amen! to opening the
door of blessing

Reaching out-We have to do this

We so desire to be a safe house. Please pray for us!</fontfamily>

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May God bless you!

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<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>

Lee & Tina Johndrow

Pillars Of Clouds & Fire Ministries

88 WCFR Drive

Springfield, VT 05156

802-885-2885

www.pocafministries.org

Building relationships to build our community for the glory of God.

Partnering with people for the glory of God!</color></fontfamily>